Comments on: OpEd – Beauty Pageant or Racing Series? http://openpaddock.net/2010/02/14/oped-beauty-pageant-or-racing-series/ Open Paddock is an online community of motorsport enthusiasts. We cover Rally, IndyCar, Formula 1, ALMS & Le Mans with our own mix of opinion and news commentary. Come join the conversation in the forum or leave a comment. Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:07:32 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Don http://openpaddock.net/2010/02/14/oped-beauty-pageant-or-racing-series/comment-page-1/#comment-1973 Don Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:28:25 +0000 http://openpaddock.net/?p=3576#comment-1973 The team owners funding Delta THING appear to have Indy Car in a real jam (as I worried). There are rumors now that the owners will boycott the first race in Brazil if Indy Car doesn't support Delta Wing. This could get real ugly (no pun intended). I believe we are on the verge of the Open Wheel war to end all wars. If Indy Car buckles the the owners demands and selects Delta THING, I am done as a fan. I will not watch the IZOD Penis Racing League. The team owners funding Delta THING appear to have Indy Car in a real jam (as I worried). There are rumors now that the owners will boycott the first race in Brazil if Indy Car doesn’t support Delta Wing. This could get real ugly (no pun intended).

I believe we are on the verge of the Open Wheel war to end all wars. If Indy Car buckles the the owners demands and selects Delta THING, I am done as a fan. I will not watch the IZOD Penis Racing League.

]]> By: Benalf http://openpaddock.net/2010/02/14/oped-beauty-pageant-or-racing-series/comment-page-1/#comment-1972 Benalf Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:27:13 +0000 http://openpaddock.net/?p=3576#comment-1972 the first questions we have to ask are: is the Delta concept fast? Is the chassis and bodywork allowed by the IRL regs? Sometimes "ugly" things bring new breakthroughs and after a while they become standards to follow....they just work. Since the aerodynamics were brought into play, F1 cars have evolved in small and big steps, season after season. To be honest, some aero solutions of the past and today look ad hideous as some parts of the delta concept and yet they are still there. What could have happened if the FIA banned winglets and extra aero foils after 2008? I think we could have ended up watching batmobiles, gothic-esque bodyworks trying to control the smallest airflow around the car. I think what IRL is doing is partially good; in the end they should have co-finance the building of the bidding designs and test them on the track....and then decide for the the concept that allow more flexibility to improve and of course...the fastest one! the first questions we have to ask are: is the Delta concept fast? Is the chassis and bodywork allowed by the IRL regs? Sometimes “ugly” things bring new breakthroughs and after a while they become standards to follow….they just work. Since the aerodynamics were brought into play, F1 cars have evolved in small and big steps, season after season. To be honest, some aero solutions of the past and today look ad hideous as some parts of the delta concept and yet they are still there. What could have happened if the FIA banned winglets and extra aero foils after 2008? I think we could have ended up watching batmobiles, gothic-esque bodyworks trying to control the smallest airflow around the car.
I think what IRL is doing is partially good; in the end they should have co-finance the building of the bidding designs and test them on the track….and then decide for the the concept that allow more flexibility to improve and of course…the fastest one!

]]> By: Doug Patterson http://openpaddock.net/2010/02/14/oped-beauty-pageant-or-racing-series/comment-page-1/#comment-1971 Doug Patterson Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:01:04 +0000 http://openpaddock.net/?p=3576#comment-1971 Bob, I appreciate your concern, and I understand your outrage, however we need to be careful not to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The concept revealed last Wednesday was just that, a concept. It doesn't necessarily have to represent what the actual production version will look like. Mr. Bowlby brings some great engineering innovations to this design exercise, and I think it would be foolish of us to ignore those just because the outward skin is not to our liking. Whereas I think it is important that those that will be making the decisions should know our thoughts on this design, I don't think we need to completely reject the entire Delta Wing philosophy. -Doug Bob,

I appreciate your concern, and I understand your outrage, however we need to be careful not to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The concept revealed last Wednesday was just that, a concept. It doesn’t necessarily have to represent what the actual production version will look like. Mr. Bowlby brings some great engineering innovations to this design exercise, and I think it would be foolish of us to ignore those just because the outward skin is not to our liking. Whereas I think it is important that those that will be making the decisions should know our thoughts on this design, I don’t think we need to completely reject the entire Delta Wing philosophy.

-Doug

]]> By: Bob http://openpaddock.net/2010/02/14/oped-beauty-pageant-or-racing-series/comment-page-1/#comment-1969 Bob Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:35:40 +0000 http://openpaddock.net/?p=3576#comment-1969 What’s more frightening than the hideous and repulsive looks of Delta THING, is what will happen after IndyCar picks a proper concept for the new formula (Swift hopefully), and the owners continue to push this monstrosity because of the money invested. I urge all IndyCar fans that hate Delta Wing to FLOOD the corporate IndyCar office with emails, phone calls and personal letters to let them know how you feel. Brian Barnhart, COO Randy Bernard, CEO Indy Racing League 4565 W. 16th Street Indianapolis, IN 46222 317-492-6526 I urge all IndyCar fans that hate Delta Wing to flood HVM Racing’s blog What Should the Next-Generation Open-Wheel Race Car Look Like? at www.hvm-racing.com , and flood Delta Wing Racing’s contact page at http://deltawingracing.com/contact/ Let them know how much the fans HATE this THING, and that we will not let IndyCar be turned into a laughing stock racing league. If the owners continue to push forward this concept, the war to end all Open Wheel wars will begin. What’s more frightening than the hideous and repulsive looks of Delta THING, is what will happen after IndyCar picks a proper concept for the new formula (Swift hopefully), and the owners continue to push this monstrosity because of the money invested.

I urge all IndyCar fans that hate Delta Wing to FLOOD the corporate IndyCar office with emails, phone calls and personal letters to let them know how you feel.

Brian Barnhart, COO
Randy Bernard, CEO
Indy Racing League
4565 W. 16th Street
Indianapolis, IN 46222
317-492-6526

I urge all IndyCar fans that hate Delta Wing to flood HVM Racing’s blog What Should the Next-Generation Open-Wheel Race Car Look Like? at http://www.hvm-racing.com , and flood Delta Wing Racing’s contact page at http://deltawingracing.com/contact/

Let them know how much the fans HATE this THING, and that we will not let IndyCar be turned into a laughing stock racing league. If the owners continue to push forward this concept, the war to end all Open Wheel wars will begin.

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